Star Wars Legacy of the Force : Invincible – Will Jaina Kill Jacen? February 2, 2008
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We’ve known since at least November that Jaina would be on the cover of the final book of the Legacy of the Force series.
Now the first images of the actual book cover are available and it looks to us that she’s going to have a showdown with her brother Jacen – Darth Caedus.
That is a confrontation that is – Inevitable – maybe that should’ve been the name of the book. Then again maybe Invincible refers to Jacen/Caedus….
Invincible’s release date is set for May 13, 2008. Amazon is already taking pre-orders on this the final installment of the Legacy of the Force – it’s a hardcover so it’s more dough than the paperbacks. Amazon currently has a neat offer though, they’re starting at 34% off list price and if you pre-order now they’ll give you an extra 5% discount. Sure beat paying full price the day it comes out..but i wonder if they’ll actually ship it to arrive on May 13th..
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Welcome aboard Colonel Cosal. I do agree with joshdasmiter. I said from the beginning that the cover of Invincible maybe is not Jaina and Caedus. I was thinking after awhile that it might be Jaina and Tahiri. I know Tahiri is blonde but maybe she has dyed her hair for a mission so she is not so recognizable. I never heard Sue say that it was definetly Jaina and Caedus on the cover, just Jaina was on the cover. Everyone just assumes that it is Caedus. And i have been thinking just like you joshdasmiter that caedus could still lose but bring peace to the galaxy then go into exile. But i just don’t think that will happen. He can maybe bring peace to this conflict but a year from then bickering and war again. He won’t take that chance. Also coming to think that maybe Jaina and Caedus will fight midway or 3 quarter of the way through the book, defeat Jaina, not kill her but defeat, then Luke will face off with Caedus. And listen to this:Luke and Ceadus duel to the death, during the duel Allana sneaks into the room where they are fighting. In Luke’s rage for Jacen for all that he has done to him, Luke turns to Allana and tells Caedus that he will take from Caedus what he took from him. So Luke goes after Allana to kill her and Caedus intervines to stop him, thus turning him good again, (the redemption story everyone wants for some reason), and sacrifices his life for his daughters. And the Skywalker legacy comes full circle when Luke becomes dark again.
General mliscky that is a very interesting theory about Allana sneaking into the room then Caedus saving her (even if I don’t really want a redemption), but I really don’t think Luke would kill an innocent girl even out of revenge, he has become to much aware of the light and darkside. I do think Allana will play a much bigger role in this book though, because we haven’t seen enough of her throughout the series, and possibly Caedus just seeing her crying over some person that Caedus killed could spark a thought in his mind and make him realize what he has become…. I don’t know but just sayin what I think could happen.
Im hoping these books are a prequel to a Darth Caedus rule. These books can tell you how Darth Caedus came to be and came to rule. Everyone is saying that its not going to happen and it is impossible. But if we never saw the old trilogy and just started to read episodes 1 through 3 we would have never, ever expected the dark side to win and the jedi basically getting extinct. Fans liked ROTS because they knew the outcome in the future movies/books. But if they didn’t know the eventual outcome and they read that not knowing what happened, there would have been total outrage. They would have cried that they ruined star wars forever. Would have said, how could they kill off Mace Windu and all the other Jedi masters. Anakin couldn’t have become a Sith, he was the “chosen” one. Stuff like that. But looking back now, that was one of the best books and movies in star wars. Drama at its best. So If Caedus would win, would that be so bad? It could set up for a great next series of books, just like episodes IV, V, and VI. But some people might say, “i already read that prequel, don’t want to read it again.” i can see there point, but I wouldn’t mind it at all, would love it in fact.
But we don’t know the future for sure. The only window into the future we have is the comics. We don’t know yet if the Novels will join harmoniously with the Comics. If they do plan on joining with the comics then Jaina will survive. If not then Jaina will die. Caedus’ fate makes little difference to the future. If he dies there are the sith on Korriban to continue the sith legacy. If he lives he establishes the new Sith Empire. In terms of the big picture Jaina is the larger character in that she still has a lot left to do. Luke is aging rapidly as are all the other ‘old gaurd’ jedi like Kyp Durron and Kyle Katarn. They are already dead to the dynamics of the EU. On the other hand Jaina could marry Jag and found the Fel Dynasty the fastest and easiest way to bring the novels into harmony with the comics. Jaina is a key pin. It may not seem like it because at the moment she is a minor character but whether she lives or dies before conceiving a Fel child will forever decide the future of the EU.
Fel never caught my attention. Or Jaini for that matter. Im more for lightsabers and fighting than i am to space battles i suppose… Just something about how easy it was for her to dismiss all questioning about the nature of the force and just fly rubbed me the wrong way. Jacen was and in a limited way still is unable to live comfortably without being able to explain his justification behind the force. Though they have said the comics and the books do not tie together, id be surprised if Troy Denning is going to finalize the separation in this book by killing Jaina. Nah i am pretty sure it will still be Jacen on the way out, and i say that knowing that if it does i may use that to put these books down and return to my other interests. This must have driven everyone nuts during “Sacrifice”…. though since i started at NJO i never really got all that attached to Mara so i was rather indifferent.
Space battles have always caught my attention because they are the only times that Force users are in real danger. How many times has Luke the Invincible Jedi come close to dying in space battles. Ceadus has come closest to dying when he is in his starfighter. In space the force users do not have their fancy little lightsabers to protect themselves from blaster attacks. They have to make do with conventional stuff just like everyone else. In favor of the comics being a window into the future the whole Star Wars history tries to conform to a single harmonious storyline, Troy Denning seperating the Novels from the comics would go angainst the grain of years of conformity. Ceadus/Jacen overanalyzes everything just like a group of anxious middle school girls who have been watching too many soaps. Overanylyzation leads to rationalization which allows jacen/ceadus to do the things he does and justify them in his own mind. Jaina by contrast doesn’t focus on the why all the time but more on the how. I know that this will rub some Ceadus fans the wrong way but Ceadus is a minor character as far as the future of the Galaxy is concerned for the reasons I stated above.
I always liked the part in Eps. 3 when Lord Sidious, bustes out his lightsaber, shoommp, right down to his hand. I just learned that this was practiced in Roman times, with in the elite..senetors and such. With there large flowing robs, it was easy to possibly conceal a wepond. So as a result, when greating other senators, they would give each other the old: forearm grasp and the left hand would go to the upper arm…I just dig the references to real history. And now, if I see that hand shake take place, I just think, ” pat down, no trust ” it’s ruined for me…ha. Though it does make me think that our history and present are like, or that we’re actually the empire.
is Vergere dead? Wow i really am grasping at straws aren’t i? I just keep trying to fathom a way that they can bring this series to an end with me still willing to read afterward. I read Destiny’s Way again rather than work on my doctorate. A ship plowed into Elaq and Jacen has a talk with an image of Vergere who never actually says that she is dead and whose infamous for hiding herself when necessary. A great number of characters have been written off from just having their spaceships explode including Jacens 2nd sith teacher…. Now her presence at the end of Invincible would be the right hook that would knock even me on my ass even as i put it down as a prediction. Common Troy, make me proud and give me a reason to keep reading!
We are an Empire and have been since the days of Teddy Roosevelt. We are the New Roman Empire bravely forcing our beleifs and ideals on people all over the known world. Our Politicians spend vast sums of money on getting reelected and corruption is everywhere under the tables. Our leaders have plans in place that remove our civil liberties and will make us into the Empire of Star Wars overnight. Authors are affected by the times they live in and isn’t Coruscant alot like the US. It makes me sick when I see George Bush written into all the books and see the complacency of the citizens mirroring our own complacency. The only thing I wish we had more in common with the Star Wars Universe was a group of force users who could keep it all together and going in the right direction.
Come to think of it, I think we’re more like the Vong. We once lived in harmony with out planet, something happend and we are now liveing at odds with it. We seem to be exiled, like the Vong. One difference is that we cherish crafted machines instead of crafted biological. And like them, we’ve seemed to have forgotten where we come from, even when it is brought to our attention as Zonma Sekot was brought to the Vong.
I’m hopeing that J-miter is right. That Vergere, will have something to add in the last book. I remember not being clear as to wether she was really dead or not. That would be sweet to read. I still can’t think of any reason that Caedus should die, other than maybe,….say by his death the Jedi come to the realization that one must be Qui Gonish in regards to the force. Qui Gon was a listener to the force just as Vergere, as well as Lymina taught Lord Caedus, (though it seem that that lesson is still being studied by our Lord), this may possibly be yet another turning point in the Jedi teachings. To learn to obey the force and not let the judgement of the senate or any from of world government cloud ones thoughts as the force put the galaxy in motion so will it guid the way on the Jedi. And all this cause of the selfless sacrifices that Darth Caedus endured to save the galaxy. May no one stand in his way.