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Star Wars Legacy of the Force : Invincible – Will Jaina Kill Jacen? February 2, 2008

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invincible.jpgWe’ve known since at least November that Jaina would be on the cover of the final book of the Legacy of the Force series.

Now the first images of the actual book cover are available and it looks to us that she’s going to have a showdown with her brother Jacen – Darth Caedus.

That is a confrontation that is – Inevitable – maybe that should’ve been the name of the book. Then again maybe Invincible refers to Jacen/Caedus….

Invincible’s release date is set for May 13, 2008. Amazon is already taking pre-orders on this the final installment of the Legacy of the Force – it’s a hardcover so it’s more dough than the paperbacks. Amazon currently has a neat offer though, they’re starting at 34% off list price and if you pre-order now they’ll give you an extra 5% discount. Sure beat paying full price the day it comes out..but i wonder if they’ll actually ship it to arrive on May 13th..

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mliscky's avatar 1. mliscky - April 3, 2008

Who cares what Lucas thinks of the novels after ROTJ. His movies were great and the EU books are all relatively good to great. If Lucas doesn’t like them, so what? the fans do. And I’m with you Maloch, Long live Lord Caedus. We are true believers of the dark side. And I do agree with you Maloch when you say Luke is the greatest force person alive. But he is followed only by Caedus. Thats why I’m disappointed because all indication is that Luke and Caedus will not face off again in this series. Would have been great. Does anyone think that Jaina can and should beat Caedus by herself?

Maloch's avatar 2. Maloch - April 3, 2008

To answer mliscky’s question: I do and don’t think Jaina should go after the Dark Lord alone, on one side, to her, it’s about bringing Caedus to justice and she wants him alive to be redeamed. This will take help and a good amount of it. On the other hand, it’s peresonal ( there twins, Lord Caedus killed there Aunt etc..) and I don’t think that Jaina wants anyone to see what she may become, even if it’s only temporary. Though, I don’t think at all that Jaina will beat the Dark Lord on her own, so her best bet would be to bring help. I’m almost thinking that this may turn out to be an intervention for Caedus as all his family might be there to try to save him.

mliscky's avatar 3. mliscky - April 3, 2008

I do think that Jaina should not go after Caedus alone. Just because she is the sword of the Jedi, doesn’t mean she has to face him alone. Alone, she cannot beat him. With someone or other Jedi, they can overcome him. Caedus is just to powerful for her. I read people talking about the Jedi focusing their will and power into her during the duel to help her win. Then she will be the “sword” of the jedi cuz the other Jedi would be weilding their powers through her.

mliscky's avatar 4. mliscky - April 3, 2008

I do believe that the only one who can redeem Caedus would be allana. Maybe seeing her while he is about to kill someone will dawn on him the monster he has become. Maybe he kills tenel ka and allana sees it and once again Caedus sees what he has become. Or maybe he even accidentally harms or kills allana, and just breaks down because everything that he done he has done for her. In saying that, I do not want Caedus to be redeemed or even be stripped from the force. for me its Sith or death.

Admiral Wilhelm's avatar 5. Admiral Wilhelm - April 3, 2008

Perhaps Jaina will be the Sword of the Jedi by acting as a channel through which the Jedi can assault Jacens mind with the total horror and fear that he spreads. He will have to realize his failures because he cannot shut off his connection to Jaina because she is his Twin Sister.

mliscky's avatar 6. mliscky - April 4, 2008

This will be the book where Caedus will show his ultimate power. I think the authors have been holding him back for a reason. Caedus has been showing power but he always had a defeat in every book. Which makes sense in a way because ultimately, its just him against everyone, including all of the Jedi. Now with sides being taken, Tahiri as his apprentice, and people done working secretly against him, such as Palleon and the “other” chief of state, Caedus can crush his opposition.

brad's avatar 7. brad - April 6, 2008

Can I ask a legitimate question? and please don’t anyone get angry cause i am just asking, but why is everyone wanting caedus to win? I am just wondering because I have always been a huge fan of the novels right from the very beginning. We have been following our favorite characters from the movies through all of the novels, through triumph and tragedy and slowly the galaxy was being rebuilt and the jedi were coming back. Of course there were huge bumps in the road caused by the yuuzhan vong war but we got through that, with losses, and again things were slowly being rebuilt. so, many of us have been following our characters in the books, struggling to make the galaxy a somewhat safe place, for years now, and if caedus wins and wipes our most of “the good guys”, i think that will be a huge let-down. To me i just think after following the jedi and other characters for literally years, it would be nice to have luke, leia and han live out their remaining few years in relative peace, before the galaxy spins out of control to the future shown to us in those new comic books. Anyways, for that reason i think that caedus will win and the empire will make some moves in order to progress the universe to where those comics pick up the story, which i’m not exactly thrilled with myself.

mliscky's avatar 8. mliscky - April 6, 2008

I personally usually route for the bad guys. It makes for a more intriging story line. But I was all for the “good” guys in the NJO series. Didn’t you think that ROTS, ANH, ESB, and ROTJ were alot more interesting than other movies or books written? Especially ROTS? I do because it was about the “bad” guys winning and trying to control the galaxy. That is why I loved the Darth Bane books because it was about the “bad” guys and the dark side of the force. Aside from ROTS, The Jedi have ALWAYS won. Sure they had many loses and defeats in the NJO, but when the series was over, they defeated the Vong. Just think it is time to shake up the EU books and have the Jedi lose to end a series, not win as they always do in every novel or series. And I’m not talking about the Jedi getting wiped out like they did in ROTS, just the book ending in a somber way having Caedus “winning.” What’s the point of LOTF if they have Jacen go sith just to have him die or get redeemed 8 books later in Invincible?

brad's avatar 9. brad - April 6, 2008

Thank you mliscky for your response, i appreciate the open discussion and you do raise some very good points. I loved ROTS, it was miles a head of the other prequel films and it was definitely the keystone that links all 6 together. It was deifnitley cool to see the dark side win and how that all happened but we all knew that was coming. It was deifnitley refreshing to see and have such a sombre ending but ultimately we knew that the dark reign would end in ROTJ, so we knew things would workout eventually. You are right for sure that it would be interesting to have Caedus winning and ruling for a while. You are also right with the series only being 9 books it does seem too quick to rise to power then be cut off one way or another. It might have been interesting to have maybe a dozen books or so spaced out in the timeline more if they wanted to wrap it up with a positive ending. I swear that I’m not a Happy Ending all the time type of guy even though i’m coming across like that right now. I guess my problem really lies with the time jump to the comic books where the galaxy is under sith and empire occupation 130 years later or whatever. I would be all for a period of dark rule with caedus if I ultimately had some idea that things would flip back to the good side way down the line and i’m sure it will eventually, but the darth krayt, jedi purge deal again seems somewhat like an endcap to everything that our characters have been working for and it was for nothing. They should be able to enjoy their old age for a bit in my opinion and who knows they may still have some good times under caedus rule. Anyways thanks for listening to me babbling on, but i definitley respect your opinions and deifnitley am interested.

Admiral Wilhelm's avatar 10. Admiral Wilhelm - April 6, 2008

The truth is that neither the Jedi or the Sith ever truly win. True both groups tend to beat the sh!# out of each other and from time to time they are down and out and bloody but both sides always come back so it is really impossible for either side to win since the goal of both sides is to destroy the other side. As long as the writers keep up the pattern of the Sith kicking the Jedi’s asses followed by the Jedi kicking the Siths asses neither will ever really win or lose. Caedus will kill many Jedi but he will never be able to get rid of all of them just as the Jedi Purge was unable to remove all the Jedi from the Galaxy and the Jedi have never scored a complete victory on the Sith of whom always two remain.


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